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		<title>Dear Neal Stone, SEO Spammer</title>
		<link>http://jhherren.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/dear-neal-stone-seo-spammer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Herren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Neal Stone, Executive Vice President of Natural Listings:
Today you sent me an email:
Dear Website Owner,
If I could get you five times the RELEVANT traffic  at a substantially reduced cost would you be interested? National Positions can  place your website on top of the Natural Listings on Google, Yahoo and MSN. Our  [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jhherren.wordpress.com&blog=985554&post=42&subd=jhherren&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Dear Neal Stone, Executive Vice President of Natural Listings:</p>
<p>Today you sent me an email:</p>
<blockquote><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>Dear Website Owner</strong>,</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">If I could get you five times the RELEVANT traffic  at a substantially reduced cost would you be interested? National Positions can  place your website on top of the Natural Listings on Google, Yahoo and MSN. Our  Search Engine Optimization team delivers more top rankings than anyone else and  we can prove it. We do not use &#8220;link farms&#8221; or &#8220;black hat&#8221; methods that Google  and the other search engines frown upon and can use to de-list or ban your site.  The techniques are proprietary, involving some valuable closely held trade  secrets. Our prices are less than half of what other companies  charge.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">I would be happy to send you a proposal using the  top search phrases for your area of expertise. Please contact me at your  convenience so I can start saving you some money. Please do not hesitate to  email or call me if you would like further information.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>Sincerely,<br />
Neal Stone<br />
Executive Vice  President</strong></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>National Positions<br />
26500 W. Agoura  Road<br />
Suite 102-547<br />
Calabasas, California 91302</strong></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><strong>Phone – 866-669-8789 x106<br />
Toll Free –  866.446.2885<br />
</strong><strong>neal@seolinkstore.com</strong><br />
<strong>Profitable  Internet Marketing</strong></font></p></blockquote>
<p>Now, this might come across as a bit cruel, but I think what I have to say is for the best to the Web community in general, and I hope you are able to take my words as constructive criticism and change your evil ways. It seems you may have been at the SEO game for a while now, but the search engines which you know intimately, only seem to highlight reports of your <a href="http://www.theagencyblog.com/2007/05/10-differentiat.html">spamming</a>, <a href="http://www.billhartzer.com/pages/netsuccessusa-promoting-search-engine-marketing-services-to-me/">Neal Stone (a spammer)</a>.</p>
<p>I believe Search Engine Optimization is a necessary job, and I agree that we need experts to help out. It&#8217;s people like you, however, that give SEO a bad name. Here&#8217;s a short list of some of the things you are doing wrong.</p>
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<li>It&#8217;s odd that an Executive Vice president would email me out of the blue. It almost makes me think you&#8217;re running your operation by yourself out of the spare bedroom.</li>
<li>An SEO company should not have to spam the whois database to find clientèle. Kinda ironic, don&#8217;t you think? The Google webmaster guidelines specifically say not to pay attention to your brand of cold calls.</li>
<li>You say you don&#8217;t use link farms, yet a vast amount of links to your own site are from link exchanges or your own clients. Again, the Google guidelines are clear that a site should never have to link to an SEO. Seriously, how can you say you don&#8217;t encourage link farms with your email address listed as neal@seolinkstore.com [&lt;-Spambots, engage!]</li>
<li>There&#8217;s no such thing as proprietary SEO strategies. The proven methods are published by the search engines themselves; everything else is a gimmick that may work for a short time, but in the long run will get your site penalized or delisted.</li>
<li>Your own website is a travesty SEO-wise. The HTML does not validate. You don&#8217;t even have an &lt;html&gt; tag! You have antiquated, table-based layout. The page is over 4MB in size from 35 requests. Your CSS has pointless, semantically irrelevant names because you barfed it out with Dreamweaver. Are you the only site stuck in 1997? No, but I&#8217;m pointing out these problems because there&#8217;s no way I could ever view you as an SEO expert with a site like that.</li>
<li><a href="http://struggleville.blogs.com/home/2004/04/quicklinks_4170.html">Comment Spam</a>. Really?</li>
</ol>
<p>So, either get legit, or at least be honest with your scummy practices and go blackhat. In the meantime, good luck promoting your work in the search engines. Your reputation is as clean as the bathroom floor after a frat party.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
John Herren, Website Owner</p>
<p><strong>[UPDATE]</strong> It just gets better. Neal emails me again just two days later for the same domain, this time using web_neal@yahoo.com as his email address.  And yeah, I did send him a link to this post as soon as it was up.</p>
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		<title>A Day in Paradise » Blog Archive » ZF and SEO</title>
		<link>http://jhherren.wordpress.com/2007/08/16/a-day-in-paradise-%c2%bb-blog-archive-%c2%bb-zf-and-seo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Herren</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Day in Paradise » Blog Archive » ZF and SEO
My friend Aaron Wormus on search engine optimization:
When it comes to SEO experts I totally agree that they are the scum of the earth… but they are also just playing a game that Google set up for them to play.
The monetary value of being #1 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=jhherren.wordpress.com&blog=985554&post=33&subd=jhherren&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.wormus.com/aaron/stories/2007/08/16/zf-and-seo.html">A Day in Paradise » Blog Archive » ZF and SEO</a></p>
<p>My friend Aaron Wormus on search engine optimization:<br />
<blockquote>When it comes to SEO experts I totally agree that they are the scum of the earth… but they are also just playing a game that Google set up for them to play.</p>
<p>The monetary value of being #1 on Google is just too much to pass up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well stated.</p>
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